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Billionaire Psycho's avatar

Interdasting thoughts

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John's avatar

" Status as a peer will rely on membership of the army, but who better than a nerd to pilot a drone, aim a field mortar, or calibrate and coordinate an artillery barrage?"

Haha so you're excluding artillerymen and mortarmen from your warrior class? Your elite will be riflemen only? I guess Napoleon can't be a soldier in your country. Do you have any military experience at all?

Also do you think maybe there's a reason every country on Earth brough the logistical function into the uniformed service? Even the old Prussian warrior aristocracy. There are kernels of truth in some of your ideas but it reads like something I would come up with when I was 16 years old before I had any life experience.

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Aedan's avatar

No, that is not what I said. If you pilot a drone, aim artillery, and so forth, you are a warrior and a peer. If an army has one man who doesn’t fight, eventually it will have no men who fight. But “fight” includes all of those positions that are exposed to mortal danger.

Napoleon invented centralized logistics, which worked for a good while because of the astonishing human quality he was able to discern and elevate into power, creating an extremely effective bureaucracy, but bureaucracies need a great man to select for merit. Without a great man to keep them efficient, the selection process for bureaucracies becomes divorced from merit because of the incentive structure inherent to the form. Markets are the most efficient means of getting weapons and food to soldiers, always have been and always will be. Centralized logistics are a means of preventing military revolt, and that is why they were adopted, so that a politician can cut off an army’s food supply from a thousand miles away.

You can mock this as a juvenile fantasy all you like but what I propose is nothing more or less than the historical norm. This is what happens when big centralized societies wane. All of the “reasonable, realistic” solutions people propose to sound like adults are things that have never been tried before or never worked.

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John's avatar

"Status as a peer will rely on membership of the army, but who better than a nerd to pilot a drone, aim a field mortar, or calibrate and coordinate an artillery barrage? Otherwise you’re a perfectly respectable freeholder with more rights and freedoms than an American citizen has today."

Seemed to imply from this that you were saying "nerds" doing these jobs would not be "peers."

"Napoleon invented centralized logistics, which worked for a good while because of the astonishing human quality he was able to discern and elevate into power, creating an extremely effective bureaucracy, but bureaucracies need a great man to select for merit. Without a great man to keep them efficient, the selection process for bureaucracies becomes divorced from merit because of the incentive structure inherent to the form."

Yes Napoleon's system could not survive him. "Meritocratic" bureaucratic France continually fell behind aristocratic reactionary Prussia for the next 100 years after Napoleon's abdication.

"You can mock this as a juvenile fantasy all you like but what I propose is nothing more or less than the historical norm. This is what happens when big centralized societies wane. All of the “reasonable, realistic” solutions people propose to sound like adults are things that have never been tried before or never worked."

I didn't say it's a juvenile fantasy. I said it has a kernel of truth but seems like you lack actual experience. There may be some room to implement this (Russian units procuring drones and motorcycles on the private market) but there's a big difference between a logistics column following an armored assault and an 18th century mule train in both complexity and danger. The guy driving the fuel truck can be blown up by artillery or airpower.

If you're saying individual units should be able to just buy their own shit instead of using the centralized supply chain, most people in the military would probably agree with that to some extent. It can't be budgeted though unless you return to a feudal system where the local lord owns his regiment. I guess that's what you're aiming for anyways.

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>We are not going to impregnate the local women

Bad idea.

I'm as much of a whole milk supremacist as you, but the benefits of segregation (the maintaining of racial purity) do not compensate for the massive amount of drawbacks.

-You are a military. You want as many women as possible, because you want as many future soldiers as possible. If the future soldiers are of inferior genetic material, put them at the frontline and the problem will sort itself out. Keep the white girls for the white boys, but allow plenty of war concubines otherwise. Rule of thumb: a marriage is allowed as long as the man is lighter than the woman.

-If the black girls don't fuck white boys, who do you think they will fuck? The surplus females from the aftermath of the conquest will go to neighboring African tribes and swell their ranks.

-Keeping a large number of halfbreed bastards allows for our genes to sneak in and percolate into the future, even in the case of New Lacedaemonia failing.

-Raiding for white girls will be a costly endeavor, because everyone will be running for them and keeping them in fortified harems. Expect such raids to have high casualty and failure rates.

Read the war laws in the Torah for non-ethnic cleansings [Num.31 and Deu.20/21.].

The live of John Robert Dunn is a source of inspiration, as well.

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John's avatar

We don't want miscegenation. If you can't see the difference between these two scenarios you're NGMI

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StJohn Piano's avatar

I enjoyed your article, which I understand is a completely hypothetical thought-experiment written for curiosity.

"Thus your personal mission is one of of finding personnel and using them to exploit specific niches so both you and them can make money and enjoy other perks."

It so happens that I am part of a group attempting something along these lines.

We start from the principle that each message should cost a fee. Lots of things about the Internet / messaging / social media / attention span begin to become sane when approached from this starting point.

Main site: tela.network

Blog: telablog.com

Take a look. You might like what you see. We're looking for new members.

Regards,

StJohn Piano

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StJohn Piano's avatar

"indeed they will frequent these locations even more often once the possibility of the black flag appearing on the horizon exists." - ahaha, so true.

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Ari's avatar

I have been reading all of your articles ever since I got access thanks to Billionaire Psycho (who has the link to your Substack).

I am not a Substack writer like you and him, but your articles were quite the joy to read because I detest the World of Today as much as millions do.

I'll read the next article when it arrives

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RpAkbar's avatar

Reading your work gives me the feeling I had watching Beau Geste as a kid

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Pablo Singh's avatar

The old Twitter poster Gyatso used to talk about the Africa/Oceania option a lot.

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